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  Alternative witnessing

  by Zyron in

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  those of us still attending meeting are actively encouraged to use out tablets or smartphones to direct people to jw.org.

  how about, after doing the standard presentation casually say to householder, you can also look at this forum to read of experiences of life as a jw as well as the official version?.

  obviously you need to be working by yourself or with a pimo jw..

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  Half banana

  You little devil Zyron! but what a good idea.

  It would probably be best for those rare individuals who have been taking the Watchtower bait like Bible studies or someone who is actually showing an interest.
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  Organizational Accomplishments - Expanded Video Production Facilities at Patterson

  by wifibandit in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzlcngtf-8.

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  Why bother to work hard in the d2d ministry when it is clearly the creator's will that everyone should be looking at JW org videos?

  Hang on a mo! only JWs want to watch stuffed shirts with mechanical gestures spouting JW propaganda. This means even fewer new recruits to the cult........
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  Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.

  as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.

  https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.

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  Half banana

  Ilove TTATT, I mention the above not to discourage your scholarly efforts but to put the JW belief system into a context.

  JW org beliefs are a confidence trick, all the talk of "God's truth" is part of the sleight of hand to bamboozle the followers. They have already decided; irrespective of whether 607 BCE is based on facts or not (they must have realized that it isn't) they are using that year as a part of their working mythology.

  The acid test used by the leadership of the org is not truth or scholarly evidence but loyalty to what they have decided is "divine truth". Their cult depends on suppressing reality.
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  Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.

  as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.

  https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.

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  Half banana

  First and foremost the JW org is not interested in truth it is only interested in perpetuating its own myths.
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  Faced with the reality of mortality

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

  most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

  we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

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  Half banana

  Stuck it's a good question of how we cope with the prospect of death after being led to believe the highly improbable tale that we are not going to die. This religious con-trick has enormous traction because at some time early in life we all awake to the horror of being conscious that we die. (Like the Catholic Church knows; a good moment in life to get religion!)

  The Victorians coped with death by exposing even young children to the constant funeral rituals of their community, today we distance ourselves from death or make a joke of it at Halloween.

  For JWs it is like we were given a cheque for ten million pounds but now we find that it was issued by the bank of toy town. The prospect of everlasting life was an illusion in the first place in fact I heard on the radio this very morning that scientists have drawn the same and rather obvious conclusion from a biological perspective that there is little prospect of a scientific revolution to create immortality.

  I think the point is not to go hunting for an immortality substitute but to quickly come to terms with recognising that there never was a prospect of cheating death in the first place.

  To have awoken from this conceit puts us in the category of those who have intellectually grown up and recognised the value of making the most our short lives-- because this is all anyone can do.
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  The prayer switch

  by Sour Grapes in

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  something that i have often thought about is how does god know when our thoughts go from normal thoughts to when we say a silent prayer?

  does god listen to all of the thoughts of earth's 8,000,000,000 people 24/7 and when one person goes into prayer mode then god's ears perk up with an "incoming" alert?

  then he has to decide if he answers the prayers to help a brother with cancer or just let the poor guy die.

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  Half banana

  Prayers are human wishes, God is deaf to all pleading whether silent or spoken.

  What a crazy world it would be if God answered prayers!
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  Have you seen Eraserhead (1977)? ... spoilers!

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i had heard a bit about it, most of it positive.

  i typed 'eraserhead review' into youtube and quite a few videos came up that presumably attempted to explain the film.. i couldn't be arsed watching a youtube vid with some artsy-fartsy person droning on about eraserhead and lynch so i thought i'd start an op about it instead.. i bought the dvd a few days ago.

  i gotta say, it's quite a strange film.

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  Original, claustrophobic, shocking and memorable but also entertaining.
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  Outside JW World They Barely Exist

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  is anyone else staggered by the fact that outside of the organization most of the general public seem to know very little or nothing about jw’s?

  when i was in i was led to believe that 99% of the worlds population had been giving sufficient warning, knew what it was all about and were stubbornly sticking to their immoral ways.

  the reality seems to be that the entire jw universe is barely noticeable to the masses.

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  Half banana

  You're right Farmer Jim, JWs live inside a big bubble which is silvered with a mirror coating so they can live in perpetual admiration of themselves.
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  Darwin's lack of evidence

  by Half banana in

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  while making bread this morning and between answering the door and phone calls, i listened on steam radio to the programme in our time with melvyn bragg.

  his panel of experts explained how the discovery of thousands of bird fossils has revolutionised our perception of avian evolution.

  i recall watchtower literature smugly presenting darwin’s admissions in his origin of the species that the geological evidence for bird evolution is “imperfect” in fact missing.

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  Half banana

  @ Fisherman, surely that's why a critical and sceptical examination of the evidence is what is needed. Beliefs and assertions are irrelevant.
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  Darwin's lack of evidence

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
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  while making bread this morning and between answering the door and phone calls, i listened on steam radio to the programme in our time with melvyn bragg.

  his panel of experts explained how the discovery of thousands of bird fossils has revolutionised our perception of avian evolution.

  i recall watchtower literature smugly presenting darwin’s admissions in his origin of the species that the geological evidence for bird evolution is “imperfect” in fact missing.

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  Half banana

  I agree with you Vidiot. The whole Watchtower delusion is based on a literal take on the Bible, this is the greatest folly for anyone. When you read material which contains magic and the supernatural even the dimmest reader can tell they are reading a story and not a factual account (he said hastily fudging the the fact that we all used to believe it was true!)

  I would be interested in the WT admission that belief in evolution would deny the BIble's truthfulness--or whatever it was they were claiming-- do you or anyone else have the quote?